017 Jeff Copper – Measure ADHD & Executive Function

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Mind Measure: The Difference Between
ADD & Executive Function

Paradoxically, without self-control you can’t be free.
– Russell A Barkley

Measure Brain Function To Improve Outcomes – Appearances Encourage Guesswork

Jeff Copper likes to measure. He is, quite simply, a man for all seasons, as he reflects, reports, and recommends on the remarkable changes in ADHD mind science. His international reputation for asking important questions, for providing an interesting forum to discuss the vagaries of ADD/ADHD diagnosis and treatment, is nothing less than exemplary – especially in these halcyon years of ADHD medication confusion, distrust, and pervasive medical quandary.

It’s dicey out there, and Jeff sets out to correct the guessing game with details that work.

With over, at the date of this interview, 450 audio and video interviews with important thought leaders Jeff sets the standard for facilitating useful, understandable programs for both public and professionals – that directly address ADHD and Executive Function Challenges.

Straight Talk: Thinking About Function 

If the targets and treatments remain imprecise who can blame the public for a pervasive lack of confidence in the medical system? The good news, label guesswork is out [hyperactive vs inattentive?], and detailed, functional measurement, both brain, and biomedical is now more decidedly, irrevocably in. No, I’m not diving into the deep waters of controversy over functional vs traditional medicine. The function I’m addressing here at CBJ is at once complex and simple: brain function and biomedical function from a comprehensive medical perspective is increasingly translatable, understandable, and applicable at the street level.

My perspective remains the same: Comprehensive perceptions are inclusive, not polarized in either of the warring medical camps and are in the best interest of the most advanced, most precise, most predictable patient care.

The good thing about science is that it’s true whether or not you believe in it.
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson

Jeff’s Outstanding Contribution

In just a few short years Jeff has interviewed almost everyone in the ADHD community from thought leaders such as Hallowell and Barkley to the living experiences of coaches and clients. He connects researchers with Main Street experiences, always chasing data that works in the real world.

Ed Note: On My Good Times With Jeff

At first, Jeff and I simply bumped into each other at various meetings, from CHADD to the National ADHD Coaches Organization. I still remember very well how much we both appreciated Dr. Russell Barkley’s remarks years ago when Russ added Executive Function insights to the previous appearance-based diagnostic criteria still used as the standard of care today.

We all know that ‘Hyperactive,’ ‘Inattentive,’ and ‘Combined,’ simply don’t cover the complexity of executive function challenges. Barkley’s insights offer more precise answers – improved target recognition. If both patient and medical teams truly understand and recognize the targets, the dialogue in global offices will improve markedly – simply because the patient can say, “Yes you hit it,” or, “Not yet.” [Functional diagnostic targets explained in 8 detailed videos in this Executive Function playlist: http://www.corepsych.com/diagnosis]

Shortly after that first meeting we both quickly realized that we’re on the same path. It’s not inconsequential that we have, in a way, grown up together. I truly admire Jeff and his work and appreciate this opportunity to tease apart some of his ideas here at CBJ on my first time interview with him – on the evolution of thinking regarding ADHD/Executive Function diagnosis and treatment. [See this Jeff Copper video playlist for the times when Jeff’ has interviewed me.]

Jeff is well beyond Byzantine speculations and often dives deeply into evidence and data for more precise thinking and more precise, data-driven solutions.

Why Measure Brain Function?

– Because appearances don’t cover the complexities of disorganized thinking. From the very outset of fresh Executive Function insights, it became clear that too many repeatedly treat the standard – appearances – rather than clinically measure the thinking process itself.

Jeff’s many video interviews have set a Critical Thinking standard for all who hope to contribute to the growing awareness of essential neurophysiology variables.


This next video seems today like it occurred decades ago – but was only 2012:


Our First Video Conversation Oct. 2012 – 14:38 min


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Jeff Copper’s Multiple Contributions With ADHD Experts:


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  1. Charlene on 02/27/2019 at 8:18 AM

    Hi, I enjoyed this show, I only have one thought though when you discuss that labelling us not useful. I have learned that this is a delicate topic. I’m studying psychology in Barcelona and many therapists there are really against labeling all together. In my classes I watch live couples therapy and when I asked if they screened for ADHD or autism they said that they didn’t want to label. I argued my side of that but they were absolutely certain that ADHD and autism was nothing that they needed to think about. And it became obvious in this discussion that they knew nearly nothing about the subject. My point us that arguing against labels can lead some people to not want to diagnose ADHD or autism at all.
    My thoughts now are to evaluate everytime if the labeling would be helpful or limiting.

    • Dr Charles Parker on 03/06/2019 at 5:21 AM

      Well said Charlene, and I do completely agree. I’m conscious of your remarks every time I do say something negative in an effort to provide constructive alternatives. Labels can certainly start the conversation, the problem arises, as you well know, with their reductionistic intent. “That’s the label – that’s the end of it.” Labels can bring the uninformed together to start the conversation, but hopefully, it doesn’t end there.

      I sign papers every day that use labels to cover administrative tasks simply because responsible people who don’t understand need some way to communicate about “some” treatment/placement options when they have no tools, as you point out, in the first place.

      Thanks much for weighing in – your remarks remind me to remain careful about my soapbox.

  2. Deshawn on 06/02/2016 at 9:25 PM

    Whoa! You guys were deep today night. Thanks for this…

    • Dr Charles Parker on 06/03/2016 at 4:09 AM

      Thanks Deshawn,
      Jeff, as you do so well over at YourADDAnssers.com, helps to make a significant difference in peoples lives by setting a great example of using fresh data, evolved insights, to make a real difference – even with many he has never seen in his office. Thanks for weighing in!

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